Buh-bye, Commodore – again.

Madrebel pointed this out to me. Painted cases is something that might have helped an established competitor in this market gain some market share, I’ve little confidence in its ability to help a company break in to the sector.

The real value in the Commodore brand would have come from remembering Jay Miner and doing something custom and cool/integrated. But this Commodore branding (because they aren’t Commodore Business Machines) is probably going to find that Commodore users were loyal to a product line that was excellent and not merely to the brand label. Isn’t that the same darn failure-to-learn that killed the first CBM?

It would be nice to see this attempt run by guys intent to really break some ground, my scepticism tells me they’re a bunch of venture capitalists trying to make money by branding off-the-shelf tat. Maybe if they make some money they’ll return to market with a fresh, truly Commodore system that has its own mobo.

Because that’s a niche that still needs to be filled – a console style custom build for running games that runs Windows.


but it’s pretty … come on man … it’s painted!

pretty lame eh? :)

What could/would a hypothetical games-optimized-but-Windoze-running PC offer that would be gameplay-superior to a conventional gamer’s-high-end PC for playing PC-format games?

I understand how Amigas were superior in their time, but what’s the opportunity now?

Or are we postulating a PC that has dual hardware and also plays console games?

Well if I knew that, I’d be out making millions wouldn’t I? :) Today’s PC loses a lot of performance to legacy and “conditional environment” stuff. Having a video driver with no ifs-or-maybes is going to make the games that put stuff thru it that little bit more efficient.

Maybe you throw in some game-specific hardware optimizations – the Amiga had unusual co-processors, like the copper; maybe the Commodore PC could have found something similar.

There is NO coprocessor or processor without the billion plus dollars needed to make the super-clean chip plant and years (decade?) of experienced workers.

You are not going to short-cut cutting edge science.

You can make a game machine that updates itself with the latest drivers, constantly patches games overnight, and can hook itself up to any common broadband, create its own software firewall, and virus scan while leaving a small RAM footprint.

That would appeal to gamers who console’d and want to move up to PC’s but don’t have the experience. THAT is about the only audience left alone. Heavy console buyers that need to be moved up to PC while having their hand held.

And a lot of females who are unexposed to games, generally, but would try it if they didn’t have to have their boyfriend all up in their computer.

Commodore missed the train. It *was* the train. Now its a museum piece. Like blacksmiths, they have some utility still, but not like they once had.

Its a good dream. Like I miss WordStar, and Lotus 1-2-3. And the old Gateway. I understand your wistful daydreaming – but hard edged economics precludes Commodore awakening from the dead.

As somebody that smiths for fun, I resemble that remark. ;)

I’d guess that the “and runs Windows” requirement is incompatible with the “ditch the legacy and conditional environment” approach, and that much of the theoretical territory for game-specific hardware optimizations is either covered by available high end PC hardware (dual 8800s, X-Fi Elite, Core 2 Duo, 4 gigs fast memory, etc.) or unlikely to be supported by game makers due to critical mass issues and cost-to-develop-and-support (X-Fi onboard memory, physics coprocessors, higher levels of multithreading/multiprocessing, faster/wider internal bus architectures).

Of course, you could make a lower-priced gaming machine if you could collect everyone’s highest-end stuff at wholesale prices, assemble it all into a box and sell it for well below the aggregate retail value. But, then you can’t afford to sell to the console-gamers-moving-up and the female-or-otherwise-non-hardware-geeks, because you couldn’t afford to provide the level and types of support those buyers would require. 8^)

what if commodore created it’s own highly optimized version of linux and somehow figured out how to actually make wine work and licensed, say, the cell processor.

now you’ve got a real CBM machine that excells at multimedia but is also a capable every day system for office tasks etc?

that is differentiation. it’s also a pipe dream :D.

KFS1 smithing? Too perfect. :)

Tech Support has never been totally popular. It is now an artisan like position, as smithing used to be. Geek Squad is over here in the states, but it needs to see if you can charge $100 for someone to come to your house to do a single hook-up.

geeksquad = retard tax. if you’re too retarded to follow simple directions then you have to pay someone in a stupid car 200 to do it for you.

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